Can a player be an Accompanist in Free Music?
Submitted by Dr. Yusef Copeland on Mon, 2010-03-08 14:50.
1) Can a player be an Accompanist in Free Music?
If so please list your favorite Free Music players who often play more of a an accompanist role
2) If people are playing in a manner that sounds like "everybody soling at once"
can you think of examples of Free Jazz or Free Music where nobody sounds like they are soloing not even one person?
Good to see you back, Dr. C
1)Ken Vandermark: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JchSZ1evGYY
where ya been doc?
answers to the quiz.
1) Can a player be an Accompanist in Free Music? If so please list your favorite Free Music players who often play more of an accompanist role.
In order of thought but not higher archie---
a)birds
b)wind
c)water
2)If people are playing in a manner that sounds like "everybody soloing at once" can you think of examples of Free Jazz or Free Music where nobody sounds like they are soloing not even one person?
for this one i'd say the proof is in the listening...
for example i do not hear a single solo on ornettes freejazz. i hear musicionas communcating and creating sound relationships and pathways.
someone else would say: are you nuts? listen to all those solos.
water and wind play free
water and wind play free music
birds play composed music
Birds play composed music?
Many birds adapt their songs for the situation. Additionally, the lyrebird actually learns new sounds and incorporates them into its mating ritual. Anyone who has not heard a lyrebird is in for a treat. Saying that birds play composed music implies that someone composed the music. Bird songs are part of evolution; those bird songs that attract mates make an individual successful, but immense periods of time and evolution change those tunes, and there is more to successful mating in the bird world than their songs. Bird songs are a product of evolution (the composer) and their environment (the improvisational stimulus).
lyrebirds
"those bird songs that attract mates make an individual successful"
Damn - never worked for me...
phil hargreaves
whi music
Never worked for me
Luckily, I'm with someone who likes my "bird song". Those who do are rare. Keep chirping, Phil. :)
Come to Think of it...
don't most birds sing Messiaen?
phil hargreaves
whi music
Some excerpts from my own experience
Some excerpts from my own experience.
1) Can a player be an Accompanist in Free Music?
I played once in duo with Californian saxophonist Vinny Golia - he had tendency to lead, so I just let him do that and followed him. You may listen to this piece here - http://rstolyar.kroogi.com/content/show/22115
2) If people are playing in a manner that sounds like "everybody soling at once"
can you think of examples of Free Jazz or Free Music where nobody sounds like they are soloing not even one person?
I participated in Denmark's Intuitive Music Conference in 2001 where we played some graphic scores - there were no leaders in performance, so everybody sounded like a part of Big Whole. That was great experience of collectivity in improvisation.
I admire your generosity
I admire your generosity Roman
good example Massimo
Interesting example it was Brötzmann soloing and then Ken Vandermark comes in a definite accompanist type repetitive lower notes approach.
Brötzmann continues as he had been. Then Gustafson comes in half soloing and half accompanist playing the pulse but taking rhythmic rests between the pulses. Then they are all playing rhythmically for a moment, all in the accompanist role and then the main accompanist switches to Gustafson and Vandermark takes the solo. They then switch roles back and forth as duo, Brötzmann
dropping out and it evolves into a blurring line between accompanist and soloist or follower/leader-leader/follower.
This shows a good variety and we can observe several instances of
players in a free situation switching from support structure role to soloist role and back again.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JchSZ1evGYY